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  Great biblical history discussion with Richard Dawkins

  by joey jojo in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21noquktb8q.

  this may have been posted here at some stage but for anyone that missed it please enjoy..

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  My friend the 'Super-Dub.'

  by joey jojo in

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  i speak semi-regularly to an old friend of mine who i would describe as a super-dub.. he knows i am inactive but over the years i have peppered him with a lot of questions about the org.

  that i hoped would make him at least pause and think somewhat rationally about the reality of being a jw in this brave new- post gb 2.0 world.. we have discussed everything from the generation changes, to the u.n. , failed prophecy, flip flops, the reduction in size of the wt magazine, the closing/ consolidation of bethels including lay-offs, jw broadcasting, cart witnessing- etc, etc.. what do i mean by super-dub?

  he is a born-in, has missionary parents, he reg.

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  The wages of sin...

  by joey jojo in

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  somewhere in the bible it says; the wages of sin is death.. just death.

  not pain or anguish or agonising illnesses.

  so , why do we have to endure all of the heart-breaking torment that goes along with life?

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  River flowing from the garden of Eden

  by joey jojo in

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  hey there.. if this point has been covered before please forgive me.. i have had the principles of noahs flood used by jw's to encourage me to attend meetings recently and this has got me musing about the flood....again.. genesis states that a river flowed from eden and branched out into four rivers, two of which being the tigris and the euphrates.. heres the baffling part; if it had never rained before, how is it that rivers existed before the flood?!!?.

  a brief google search tells us that the euphrates begins its journey as snow melt and rain ( as most rivers do) in mountains in turkey.. ecc chapter 1 mentions the water cycle and describes the rivers flowing into the sea but the sea not becoming full.

  how did it work pre-flood?

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  What not to say...

  by joey jojo in

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  hey guys.

  i was recently talking to a old friend who is a very active elder.

  i was talking about ' the truth' and he suggested i sounded like an apostate because i used terms like ' the society' and ' watchtower '.. i am aware that ' dubspeak ' has changed over the years and i am pretty sure that someone posted about it here but i can't find the thread.

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  Great quote by German physicist Max Planck...

  by joey jojo in

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  a new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.

  a quote that could be applied closely to the style of the wts 'change management'.. put another way.... "we make stuff up and expect people to accept it as truth.

  when we change things we still expect people to accept it as truth.

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  epica- ice cores

  by joey jojo in

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  epica- european project for ice coring in antarctica.. kind of old news but fascinating.

  over the last 10 years or so, this organisation has analysed ice core samples taken from antarctica.

  drilling more than 3000 metres into the permafrost, they produced the longest, continuous record of earths climate extending back almost 800 000 years.

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  Another generation....

  by joey jojo in

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  it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?

  the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.

  the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.

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  My life as a fundamentalist

  by joey jojo in

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  as a born-in jw, i never considered myself to be a fundamentalist.

  i always thought we were enlightened, progressive and not 'stuck in darkness' like all the other religions.. i was totally wrong.. as far as fundamentalists go, jw's are probably right up there amongst the front-runners.

  no, they do not stone people to death or go on religion-fuelled violent rampages but that's not what i'm talking about.

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  Aus Bethel reducing numbers dramatically.

  by joey jojo in

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  sorry if this is old news but just heard that there will only be about 75 people left at sydney bethel after layoffs.

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